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#172 – Self-care can also make you sick – Fritjof Nelting on fear, stress, and the art of purposelessness (German)

July 23, 2025
August 29, 2025

On our podcast we often talk about economic development, technological trends, and societal change. In this episode, we focus on something that influences all of these areas but is rarely addressed openly: health.

Our guest is Fritjof Nelting. He is an entrepreneur, heads the psychosomatic clinic group Gezeiten Haus, coaches executives, and speaks on international stages.

We talk with him about how to deal with stress, the misunderstanding of self-optimization, and why it can actually be a bad sign if you never get sick.

“When someone says they haven’t been ill in twenty years, I actually feel sorry for them.”

Fritjof has also recently published a book about what he calls purposelessness. In this episode, he explains what it really means and why purposelessness has nothing to do with aimlessness.

If you want to know how small changes in everyday life can make a big difference – and why there’s no one-size-fits-all solution – this conversation is especially worth listening to.

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